Ask Gustavo Arellano
March 11, 2006 - 1:40pm — culturegrooveGustavo Arellano is an investigative reporter and columnist for the OCWeekly in Southern California. Since 2004, Gustavo has been answering questions in his increasingly popular column "Ask A Mexican". In February 2006, the LA Times wrote an article on the weekly column and now, it seems, that everyone wants to talk to Gustavo. Including me.
CG: How did the Ask A Mexican column start?
GA: We used to have a column at the OCWeekly called Burning Bush where we would gather the conservative critics of George W. Bush and post their comments in our paper. That column was going to end with the November 2004 elections regardless of who won. So we were trying to figure how we were going to replace that space. One day my boss, Will Swaim, was driving down Main street in Santa Ana, California, the most latino city in the United States. He sees a billboard of a local radio DJ wearing a Viking helmet and he has his eyes crossed. It’s just this really bizarre image. My boss comes back and asks "Have you seen that billboard? That guy looks as if you could ask him a question about Mexicans and he’ll know the answer.” Why don’t you start a column called ‘Ask A Mexican’ and we’ll run it once and we’ll see what the reaction is and if it works then we will continue doing it and if not, then it’s just a one time only column."
CG: I guess it worked...
GA: Well what happened was we run the first question, which is the only question we’ve ever made up, “Dear Mexican, Why do Mexicans call white people gringos?” I responded “Dear Gabacho, Mexicans don’t call gringos gringos, only gringos call gringos gringos. Mexicans call gringo gabachos.” We just left it at that and thought ‘Oh, how funny!’ But it gets published with the stereotypical Mexican icon of the fat guy with the gold tooth and a sombrero. We receive so many reactions. A lot of it was negative like “Why are you using that racist stereotype?”, ”What’s this about? Who are you?”, “How dare you do all this!” We also got positive feedback. Both the positive and negative comments came from people of all races. Some of the positive comments were “This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read!”, ”This is hilarious!” More importantly though, and one thing we didn’t anticipate: we started receiving questions about Mexicans from the first issue. So we though ‘let’s try this for a couple more weeks, and we did that and we started receiving more questions. One week we didn’t run the column due to space constraints and we started receiving email saying ’Hey, where’s ask a Mexican?”, “Please don’t kill ask a Mexican!” Ever since then, with the exception of special issues, it’s run every week.
CG: Have you been surprised by any reactions to this column?
GA: I guess what surprises me is that people are sending in these questions. I knew that I was going to get negative and positive reactions. That goes without saying. That’s what happens with any column. I do get surprised that people still feel the need to ask somebody questions about Mexicans because Mexicans continue to be this obsession for the general American public.
CG: Lately I’ve been reading more about racial issues and I have found that there are very few public forums or opportunities to just ask questions and not feel that you are going to be reprimanded. I’ve seen websites that make fun of both white culture and black culture and there are things about white culture that apparently are stereotypes that I’ve never even heard of. That probably because I haven’t felt comfortable asking other people about these things. I have shown your column to a few friends and often their initial reaction is “I’m not sure I want to read this”. This is partially because of the title and…
GA: The picture?
CG: No, I showed them the Dirty Sanchez article [Gustavo laughs] which might not be the best thing to start them off on. But then they actually read your response which is of course funny, but there’s a lot of honesty, references to other cultures and a lot of intelligence there. Do you think that having other opportunities like this and having them published would be good for society to help tear down prejudice and get us over a lot of the stereotypes that we have?
GA: Absolutely. By trade I am an investigative reporter and one of my beats here has been the anti-immigrant movement based mostly in Orange County. I have also profiled hate groups, neo-nazi groups. I go after the scum of society. I am of the philosophy that the best way to combat hate and racism is to shine a light on it. When you do that, you’ll see how quickly it withers away. If we don’t talk about stereotypes then they are going to grow in stature and grow in menace and power because it’s not spoken of. If we don’t allow these grievances to be aired in some sort of public forum, that’s where problems can arise. But if you talk about these stereotypes you’ll see how ridiculous they are and you’ll see how easy it is to debunk them. And once you debunk them the stereotypes are proven to be a lie and now the stereotype is diminished. Is the power of it still there? Yes. But now it’s weakened. And if you continue to do that, it will make stereotypes weaker and weaker and I do think that it does allow for a better understanding of the culture and also more of an acceptance of it.
CG: In one of your columns you mentioned someone’s question “Why do Mexicans always run across the street?” You responded by mentioning the fact that the places where many Mexicans come from don’t have proper roads set up, never mind crosswalks, streetlights and the laws that go along with them. Unless someone is studying that specifically, when you go to another country, you are not going to know all of the rules of traffic and jaywalking. It made so much sense and at first seemed like a silly question.
GA: I get questions from all over the spectrum varying between the Dirty Sanchez and jaywalking. Some of the questions are just common sense like the one about jaywalking. Another one that I don’t believe I’ve answered in the column but in a recent radio show somebody asked me “Why do Mexican’s have bumper stickers pledging allegiance to the state they come from?” Well, it’s because they are immigrants. Immigrants are always going to maintain some sort of tie to their homeland. And this isn’t a Mexican thing. If you go back to the turn of the century where you had Italians, they weren’t even Italian. They were considering themselves Neapolitan etc. Immigrants are going to have an immediate tie to whatever region they came from. The nation state is really a myth. The only time a nation identity really emerges is when you are on the international stage. People in Mexico will call themselves Mexicans but really they are Jaliscienses, they are Zacatecanos they are from whatever region they’re from. To this day Mexicans are still viewed as this exotic race when in fact it’s just the same assimilation process that has happened with any other immigrant group.
CG: I think that as average Americans, many of us still know so little about many immigrant groups and it’s very unfortunate. I hope that your column continues to be published for quite some time.
GA: People ask me “How long is this column going to last?” and I say “As long as I have questions sent to me.” At this point, if nobody else were to send me any questions I have enough to last me for three years. I answer questions twice a week, every week. And that’s before this media storm with the LA Times story.
CG: Maybe you can publish a big book at the end.
GA: We’re currently in the stages of talking to people about an Ask A Mexican book.
CG: Do you have a favorite question that you’ve been asked so far?
GA: There’s so many questions.. week in and week out…
CG: Maybe the strangest?
GA: I think the funniest question that I’ve received, or at least the best response that I was able to give, was “Why is it that Mexicans, when they go to the restroom, throw their soiled toilet paper into the trashcan?” My response was “Congratulations! You’ve discovered how to tell the difference between a Mexican immigrant that has just arrived and a Mexican immigrant that has already been here.” In Mexico you do have that in fact, where you are supposed to throw away your soiled toilet paper into a trash can and not flush it. Because in Mexico, there’s very little in terms of water so the sewage system is almost non-existent. If you try to flush down toilet paper it might clog the system. So what I told the guy who asked the question was “Do me a favor and tell these Mexican immigrants that that’s not how us civilized Americans do it. We flush away our shit into the ocean.” The question was so bizarre and I thought about it and there was a logical explanation for it. And there’s that assumption by Americans that throwing away your soiled toilet paper is barbaric and that flushing into the ocean is somehow supposed to be better.
CG: Have you spent lots of time in Mexico? You were born in this country but seem to be very knowledgeable not only about life in Orange County but in Mexico.
GA: My great-grandfather came to the orange fields here in Anaheim as a teenager. So he grew up here. When it was time to have a wife, he went down to Mexican and had his family and would still go up to the Unites Stated to work. When my grandfather was of age, he also came up to Anaheim and was raised here as well. Of course when it was his time to have a wife the he goes down to Mexico and has his children. My mom immigrated here when she was 9 years old. My mom, still an immigrant and to this day barely speaks any English. I consider myself fourth generation. My father, on the other hand was an illegal immigrant who came here in 1969. So by calling me a fourth generation Orange Countian people assume that somehow I am assimilated but the fact it that I really wasn’t. Spanish was my first language and in fact I only spoke Spanish until about 1st grade or so. In terms of Mexico, we would go during December but the last time I went regularly was in second grade. I didn’t go again until I was about 22. My mom didn’t want us to miss any school and I didn’t have a chance for vacation. But what I tell people is that really there was no need to travel to Mexico because by the time I was born both of my parents’ ranchos, villages, in Mexico had all migrated here to the United States. So I essentially grew up in Mexico. I was growing up in the villages of my mom and my dad, but here in Anaheim. Most of my friends were the children of the immigrants. All the parties I went to, weddings, quincenetas, baptisms, it was all very insular. That was a Mexican upbringing. Some people accuse me of not being a real Mexican because I was born here. I don’t know what other qualifications you need besides the one I just told you. That’s about as Mexican as you can get.
CG: In noticed that you mentioned a MySpace page, but it doesn’t seem to be there anymore.
GA: I wrote an entire column devoted to plugging my MySpace page. The day before it gets published I received an email saying ‘Your MySpace account has been deleted.” I thought it was just spam. I go along my merry way and a couple hours later I go and try to update my space and it wasn’t there anymore. Then I go and actually read the email and it said that it could have been deleted for any number of the following reasons: spamming, getting too many friends to fast, being offensive. I am still at a loss as to why it was deleted. I sent them a couple of emails and they never responded. Now whenever people ask me “What happened to your MySpace page?” I tell them to email Tom and say “What the fuck?” Or in Spanish “Gue chingada?” I would like to know that answer. Because every single sin listed as a reason, every other MySpace page violates it. Are you going to tell me that these strippers with MySpace pages where they are half naked that it’s somehow not offensive but my Ask A Mexican column is?
CG: These websites,(MySpace, Tribe) because they are free, seem to take a lot of liberties...
GA: They are the ones who ultimately lose out. They are going to get emails form people saying “Where the hell is the Ask A Mexican MySpace page?” At least here in Orange County it makes me more of an outlaw celebrity saying “Oh my gosh! He’s so controversial that even MySpace, which allows strippers, deleted him.”
CG: Yeah! You got banned from a free website!
GA: And how many people can claim that?